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Troy.

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I sure am glad I saved you from that city life.

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Sky Open Store sees our couple piled in sweat and cum.

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This is a little rude for the BBC.

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Music

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The San Fernando Valley, north of Los Angeles.

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The acknowledged world capital of pornographic films.

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It's an industry that revolves around images of women.

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My mission?

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To immerse myself in the less well known subculture of the male performers.

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You see everything?

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Get off.

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Organs, close up.

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Sometimes they fill the whole screen.

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No, the organs.

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My first contact was Susan Yenetti, a publicist for a high end production company called Vivid Video.

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Is porn an exciting place to be right now?

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The public is at a time and place where they're actually open to hearing about this.

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Hollywood actually has four movies right now in the works about the adult entertainment industry.

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So is Vivid actually making a conscious effort to bring them sorts into the mainstream?

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Yes.

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So listen, I may be interested in actually trying it out as a lifestyle.

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You want to get into a movie?

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Maybe get into a movie, something like that.

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Could I do that?

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I mean how far do you want to go with this?

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How far could I go hypothetically?

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If you can do it, you can go all the way.

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What do you mean if you can do it?

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Because there are certain things that you must be able to do on cue with a woman that you may not have met before,

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that you may not particularly be attracted to, and you're in front of a crew of 20 people and there's hot lights around.

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It's not enough just to be with a beautiful woman.

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Are you saying it's actually quite difficult to perform on camera?

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It seems like the easiest job in the world really.

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Let's face it.

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It's not.

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Many men have tried and very few have made it.

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Eager to find out more, I joined Susan for a behind the scenes tour of Vivid Video.

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This is the hall of Vivid girls.

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These are all of the girls that are currently under contract right now.

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Where's the whole of Vivid guys?

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There is none, sorry.

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Why not?

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Guys just, you know, aren't having quite made it up to that level yet.

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How many Vivid guys are there?

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They will though, eventually.

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There's one, right?

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Yes, right now there's one.

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John Doe.

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This is the where half of the party's here.

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Look at this.

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It's a cathedral of porn.

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Yeah, if you're a fan, this is definitely the place.

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You're a fan, so to speak.

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Row after row after row of the best adult entertainment.

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Standing room only.

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That's tapes for people standing up?

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Goals on top?

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That's kind of a feminist line.

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Beef eaters, see, that would work well in an English market.

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Because beef eaters are a national institution in Britain.

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Four hours of shoe and foot fetishes.

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Girls with boots.

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Oh, it's sort of leather.

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That's all lacy.

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Sitting showers and saunas.

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How come it's got so many tiny little niches?

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I guess because there are so many different people that like so many different things.

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Guys, it's so exciting.

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I love it.

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A dick runs through it.

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Jizz tonics.

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Spinners.

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Throw some scramble.

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Box lunch.

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Poll sitters.

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Pooterville.

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Costume ball.

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Foo.

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Heels.

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Slick.

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Rhydom cowgirl.

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Tokyo.

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Fireball.

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Wide open spaces.

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Sped spread.

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Amazing.

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Next stop, vivid's casting agent and arbiter of male talent, Mo Bundy.

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Hi Louie, how are you?

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How are you doing?

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Good.

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Good.

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Getting ready for you guys to come in and hang out with me for a little bit, I guess.

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Good, good, good, good.

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So what's like, tell me, Susan, why don't you tell me what Mo does?

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Where are you going, Mo?

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I'm coming into my office.

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You guys come on in here.

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This is John Doe, right?

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Right.

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And he's the vivid guy.

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You're right.

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Vivid, yes, guy.

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How about that?

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If I wanted to know what it means to be a guy, a male performer in the business, should

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I follow him around?

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I would at least get some advice from him.

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Is he shooting anything in the next week or anything that we could see him in action

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in?

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Actually, the next two days, he's shooting Debbie Does Dallas.

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Hey, are you John Doe?

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Hey, what's up?

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How's it going?

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I'm Louis from the BBC.

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Hey, what are you doing?

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Nice helmet.

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Thanks.

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What does it say?

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Worst stuff.

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Want a bone?

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Okay, this is how we enter the scene.

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Miss Thane.

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Walk off.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

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What's up?

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You guys go off this way.

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Tell me back there.

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So we did our kiss.

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We walked off.

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John Doe was working with two true veterans of the business.

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Pawnstar since the 70s, Sharon Mitchell, and performer-turned-director Paul Thomas.

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She hangs the doll by the neck.

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Okay, okay.

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Let's porn up.

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Camera.

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Margaret.

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Pornu and Apple Dude.

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Action.

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The presentation of the insure meter goes.

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Oh my God.

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No, I understand from talking to Susan a little bit that one of the biggest challenges is

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keeping what they call wood.

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You know, that you're staying aroused for the scene.

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Is that right?

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Yeah, you know, most men can't do it.

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That's why there's so few men doing it.

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Because they get afraid.

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Why do they get afraid?

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I know a lot of men just, a lot of guys don't have what it takes, man, because, you know,

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they think you're supposed to make a dude, you know, make a beautiful dude.

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That's not what you're doing here.

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I was a performer for a long time.

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I think while you're in the flow, it is the best job in the world.

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The common will be paid hundreds or even thousands of dollars to fuck beautiful women in movies that people love.

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And when you support groups working, it's the best job in the world.

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But there's a whole number of dynamics that they can break down, and it's not always, you know,

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you're not always in the place that you want to do it.

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Do you get a lot of people coming up to you saying, hey, man, I want to do your job, that type of thing?

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Yeah, you know, some of them are happy, some of them are standoffish, they look at you,

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but they don't approach you.

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Some of them get cocky, you know.

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Oh yeah, you gotta go to work.

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You gotta go to work, sure.

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That must get kind of irritating in a way, like people don't regard you, take your work seriously.

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They say, oh, you just had sex.

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No, it doesn't irritate me.

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I just stay home more.

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Maybe you can be on the bench.

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Here, even better yet, get on the bench, and you move over, Shane.

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Marker.

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And I will take one.

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And action.

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Melody, put your left leg up on the bench.

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This is real.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah, they're both genuinely excited, but they're not faking it.

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They say things like women, the men, or what happens if a man is a showboy.

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Because you don't, the men don't have to get a heart out.

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Really? They say that, it's hard to believe.

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We'll put this up at the other time, but we could keep talking here.

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We've been in the shower for about how long?

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A while.

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Long enough.

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A long time, and it was cold.

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Yeah, yeah, it was very cold.

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You sound like you might be English.

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I am.

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Where are you from?

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Northampton.

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How is the scene different here in LA than it was in Europe?

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Why did you come over?

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In Europe, you find that you will have much longer scenes, and it's much stronger.

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It's like they just want vicious, hardcore sex.

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We're here.

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They don't try and kill you.

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You don't get as many injuries, not as many bruises.

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Yeah, so that sounds better, right?

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It is, it's a lot better here.

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Did you always dream about working porn when you were going up?

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Well, I wanted to do sex, just one sex, for the world.

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And if maybe I can't help it.

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Really?

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If I worked in an office, I'd probably shag the whole office and get the sack when I got to the boss.

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Or get a promotion more like me.

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No, I'm supposed to give his dick a lick and then say,

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Give me some sexual union with him.

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And then say, do you want to go out with me?

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Why can't I just go?

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You want to go out with me?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This is the power, you know.

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One thing that I've noticed about guys is that they come in very sweet, very open, very tentative,

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and almost tender at times.

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And then as you see them film after film after film, you kind of see that glazed look go over.

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And it's the look, it's the change.

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And you suddenly realize that you too could be a piece of meat, a hole in the wall,

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or whatever fantasy is inside their head.

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It's a degree of the utmost impersonal.

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So does that screw a person up, do you think?

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Yeah, yeah, sure, it's got to screw you up.

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I mean, it's, I know that it screwed me up for many years,

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and I know that I had to get screwed up to actually work for many years.

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Really?

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Many years, yeah.

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You seem okay, you seem pretty well adjusted.

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Well, yeah, um, yeah, but it took me a long time to kick the hair.

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I'm going to buy one of these with my first paycheck.

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All right.

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As a point, oh, guy.

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Well, you know what, with your first paycheck?

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Yeah.

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For the month, you actually could buy one of these.

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Really?

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Sure.

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Do you think I could make it?

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No.

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Absolutely, man.

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Why?

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I've seen a lot of guys come and go, man.

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You're, uh, you can do this.

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At John Doe's suggestion, I sought out a talent agent,

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and for wannabe porno performers, there is only one, Jim South of World Modeling.

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If you want to, you could use this phone.

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I thought I'd know he's there.

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He was an hour ago.

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Okay, can I ask what's going on just to get an idea of sort of how things work here?

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Uh, yeah, this gentleman is talent with us,

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and, um, I just preferred him to a big, uh, manufacturer and distributor by the name of Metro.

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I don't want to cause offense to anyone when I say that.

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I look at T'Liessen, and I don't automatically think there's a porno performer.

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But yeah.

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It's the quiet science that you've got to watch out for.

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You know, intellectual, we wear the glasses.

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He's a good performer.

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He delivers.

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He delivers.

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You go up, you turn up on time, you get an erection, boom, you ejaculate.

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Yeah.

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Pretty much.

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It can be very difficult, but yeah.

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Can I look at your penis?

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No.

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Please?

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No.

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Why not?

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If I wanted to break in, how would I start?

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Is it people come in here and that's how it goes?

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Yeah, they come in here, they fill out an application, not a contract.

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We take a couple of just standing nude Polaroids.

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We give him a magazine, tell him he needs to excite himself.

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We leave the room while he's doing it.

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He usually hollers, Jim!

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And we hurriedly go back and take the pictures.

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And then we get him in for talent calls that we had that used to be called cattle calls,

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where he meets a lot of producers, directors, and there's one of the biggest in the market

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that you should interview, Henri Pershard.

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He's famous.

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How'd you do, Henri Pershard?

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I'm knowing through.

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From the BBC.

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Some people say that as far as performers go, it's tougher being a man than a woman.

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Let's work, they get paid less, more pressure.

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Once you're in, once you're in the business as a male performer, you are in.

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I mean, and you're in up there, there are fewer working male performers in this business

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than there are astronauts on the planet.

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You've been in the business how long?

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30 years.

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And have you seen people destroy themselves?

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James.

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I'm damn near destroyed myself.

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I've made a lot of money, I've had a lot of awards.

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I've gone through four or five relationships and marriages.

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I mean, it's taken its toll on certain things like that.

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Sure.

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It's, I've led myself into a lawsuit.

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What did you just finish shooting?

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I shot a spasm, spasm three, and I shot an anal witness four.

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Well, monoling.

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Would you like to make an appointment?

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Okay.

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And you understand it is nude monoling.

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Speaking of the guy, I mean, I'm a reporter for the BBC, but I'm sort of interested in

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participating as well.

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So do you think you can give me any advice?

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Oh, gosh.

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I can't.

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As far as being in a movie, I couldn't give you any advice.

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No, as far as like to be popular among women, what would you do?

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Which guys do you like to work with?

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Have a hard dick, whoever's hard.

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Really?

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If you're hard, you're wonderful.

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I don't care what you look like, what your personality's like, as long as you're dick's hard.

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What if your breath smells?

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Well, if you're dick's hard, I don't care.

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Really?

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I'd make you go brush your teeth.

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Okay, what is your name?

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Rachel St. Marie.

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Obviously.

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Well, monoling.

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Why have you decided to come back into the business?

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It's a quicker way of making it happen as an income.

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And the demand right now is so great that I can make quite a bit of money in about two weeks.

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In two weeks?

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How much could you make in two weeks?

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I would say about 10 to 15 grand.

336
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Now you're interested in magazine work and movie work?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Now first of all, for movie work, it does mean actual sex, actual penetration.

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Just boy, girl, we don't book two guys.

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And just to let you know, everybody that does want to get started in video does need to have a current HIV test every 30 days, no ifs, ands, or buts.

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Okay?

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The rate of pay for a feature anywhere starting at $250, anywhere up to $350, some guys make for $500.

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It really just depends.

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But the girls always make more than the guys.

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But girls can fake it though, guys can't.

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You don't come, you don't get paid.

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Is that right?

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You don't come, you don't get paid.

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The bottom line is if you're supposed to be getting like $250 for one sex scene, if you do the hardcore and you don't do the pop shot, then they hire somebody which is called the stunt cock, which is a guy that comes in and just pops.

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And usually you give that stunt guy anywhere from $50 to $75 to $100 for fixing the scene up.

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And I mean I started out a long time ago and I needed many a stunt cock to fill in for me.

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It's not a very good feeling.

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You don't even feel like a man.

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It's a long walk home or it's a long walk to the car when you need to have a guy fill in for you.

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You just don't even feel like you can do your job as a man.

357
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It's a lot of pressure.

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Everything is up here though.

359
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It's not down here.

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You can be the greatest stud in the world in the bedroom.

361
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Bottom line is when you're on a set and the lights go on.

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It's a different story.

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So Steve, do I have to have wood for the picture?

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If you can, great. If you can't, it's not a big deal.

365
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Okay, we'll do our best.

366
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Steve, I'm ready.

367
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You don't have any magazines or anything, do you?

368
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We've got a bit of a wood problem.

369
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Alright, don't worry about it.

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Put your arms like this.

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Okay, just tell him how and how you want me to pose.

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Just pose like this.

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Hands together.

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Smile.

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Very nice.

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Six sexy things.

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Don't move like that because I'll get the wrong idea.

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Smile.

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Get dressed, Kevlar.

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Chim South had hooked me up with a rising star called J.J. Michaels.

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He'd recently left the Air Force.

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Now he was being touted as a top gun in the porno industry.

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You must be J.J.

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I'm Louis.

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How you doing?

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How's it going?

387
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Can we come up?

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Chim South told me that you're the man to talk to about understanding the porno business

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because you're a successful young up and coming porno actor.

390
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I guess.

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Is that right?

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Sounds good to me.

393
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So can I hang out with you for a few days?

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Would that be alright?

395
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Please do.

396
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Yeah, what are we going to do?

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Okay, where's the other guys?

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Ahhhh.

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Ahhhh.

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Ahhhh.

401
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Ahhhh.

402
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Ahhhh.

403
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Ahhhh.

404
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Ahhhh.

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Ahhhh.

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That's a blind one.

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That's pretty cool.

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That's a blast.

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These right here are all the old Godzilla movies.

410
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There's like three to a tape.

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Then I have the new ones starting with Byelante, King Gida.

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One thing I'm not seeing is any porno videos.

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Uh, Bluegrass, I don't have any.

414
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Why not?

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Not even your own?

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None of them are out yet.

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Really?

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They'll be one out in a week and a half.

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We can get them what's it's called, I think it comes on 24th.

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It's anal witness four.

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Him and Pashard.

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Anal witness four.

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It's called what?

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Mm.

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Mm.

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Mm.

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Mm.

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JJ, where are you at in the business?

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Give me a rough idea of where you stand.

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I'm in a position where I believe I can make a good career out of it.

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If I make the right decisions with Jim Salis' guidance.

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How many movies have you done?

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13 as of now.

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I've been doing average of four a week for the past like three weeks.

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How has it affected your love life being a porno as well?

436
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Uh, well, I'm not going to start yet.

437
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I don't know, I don't really, I don't have a girlfriend or anything.

438
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I just have to be friends with, you know, girls that I know.

439
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You don't have to, it's easier because you don't have to worry about, you know, oh,

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I got a who you lead tonight because you got your fill of sex.

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Yeah.

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That's all I need is girls that are friends to fill the friendship need.

443
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Is there anything you won't do?

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As in movies?

445
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As in porno, yeah.

446
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Um, yeah, I mean like freakish movies, you know.

447
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Meaning?

448
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Transvestites, excessively overweight people, you know, old people.

449
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What about anal?

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Oh, no, I do that.

451
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DPs all the time.

452
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What's, DPs are?

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Double penetration.

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Usually one guy bad, one guy anal.

455
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You've done that?

456
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A bunch.

457
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No.

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What's the most important thing then?

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Um, for guys, can you get wood?

460
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Really?

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That's the most important thing right there.

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Can you keep a heart on the entire time?

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And believe it or not, it's not easy like it, like it seems like it should be.

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I don't care how beautiful she is, how charnonic she is, sometimes it's not happening.

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It is.

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Are there any circumstances you have to get there and get wood and, you know, do?

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That's when the stress comes in.

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Because if you don't, then you start getting stressed out even more, you're like, oh, shit,

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I'm not doing it.

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I got it.

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Oh man, I got to do this, I got to do this, and then that makes it twice as hard to do

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it.

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So, I mean, yeah, that's when the stress comes in for guys.

474
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Is there stress?

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Yeah, a lot.

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So could I come by and visit you one set maybe?

477
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Yeah, sounds good.

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See you in action.

479
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Yeah, well, too much action as you can see.

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How much can I see?

481
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Not very much.

482
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Why is that?

483
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You don't like a lot of people hanging around on the set.

484
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Really?

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Because of problems?

486
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Yeah.

487
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Pressure.

488
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Yeah.

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The next day, I arranged to meet JJ on set at Sterling Studios, a soundstage built in part

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by a porno performer called Cal Jammer.

491
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Jammer killed himself in 1995.

492
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Some say because of the pressures of the industry.

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Who are JJ's?

494
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JJ?

495
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Oh, the kid?

496
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The kid, yeah.

497
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It's Tom Walkby.

498
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Oh, wow, he's probably upstairs.

499
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I thought I saw that one.

500
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Hey, JJ.

501
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How's it going?

502
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Okay.

503
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Hey, feeling?

504
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Nervous.

505
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All right, just keep doing your thing, man, because we're going to follow you.

506
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You're not following us.

507
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Okay.

508
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Yeah.

509
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That force field is the only thing standing between us for certain depth.

510
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We know that, don't you?

511
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This pig is hitting on Meg.

512
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Back off, Carter.

513
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He's just being caught off from everyone else.

514
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That's the worst part.

515
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Here it is.

516
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Stand by.

517
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Ready?

518
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All right, we're ready to shoot.

519
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This will sound first.

520
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Get up to speed.

521
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Yeah.

522
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How you feeling?

523
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Pretty good.

524
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Yeah.

525
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You going wood yet?

526
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Oh, wait, when do you do that?

527
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I'm going to go limo-size.

528
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,000
Let's go.

529
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000
Places.

530
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000
Hey, uh, break a leg.

531
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,000
So, camera please.

532
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,000
11-a-half of Apple tape 2.

533
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,000
Marker.

534
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,000
And settling.

535
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000
Action.

536
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,000
Okay.

537
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000
Okay.

538
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000
Okay.

539
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000
Okay.

540
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,000
Okay.

541
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,000
Okay.

542
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000
Okay.

543
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,000
Okay.

544
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,000
Okay.

545
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,000
Okay.

546
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,000
Action.

547
00:20:51,000 --> 00:21:02,000
J.J.'s first scene was with a rising female performer, Johnny Black.

548
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,000
Surprisingly, Johnny's husband was watching from the sidelines.

549
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,000
So that must be weird, though, being the husband, Johnny's having sex with J.J.

550
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,000
I guess most people's eyes, it would be kind of weird, but this is work.

551
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000
I mean, there's an entirely different thing.

552
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,000
Yeah, it's sex and it's intimate for most people, but this is work.

553
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,000
Any rules, you know, about what she can and can't do or act as she would with.

554
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,000
If there's guys out there that she has problems with on a set and a problem generally, you know,

555
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:33,000
not being able to get wood, then she won't say no the second time around, but if it happens

556
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,000
again working with her, then she'll really think about it before she'll go back, because

557
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000
that's hard on everybody.

558
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,000
You know, because there are people, there aren't men in this business that, you know,

559
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,000
or say they can do great things and they get on the set and they can't do it.

560
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,000
Hey, Keith, is the wood going?

561
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000
We got to check on Mr. Wood.

562
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000
Sound please.

563
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000
Here we go.

564
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000
This is 11 Apple Apple 3.

565
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000
Marker.

566
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000
And action.

567
00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,000
I'm going to cut my phone call.

568
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000
Don't get too caught.

569
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,000
Sound speed.

570
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000
Marker please.

571
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000
Apple Apple 5.6.

572
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,000
Marker.

573
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000
And action.

574
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,000
That's caught.

575
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,000
I don't even want to get it still here, but.

576
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000
You can do the power stretch.

577
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000
Yeah.

578
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000
Okay.

579
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,000
You're on your back.

580
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000
I don't think we're going to be able to do it.

581
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000
No?

582
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000
All right, fine.

583
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,000
What's comfortable for you?

584
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,000
Doggies probably instead.

585
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,000
Doggies do it.

586
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000
Doggies easiest.

587
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000
All right.

588
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,000
Don't do it.

589
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000
Just give me an insertion shot on that.

590
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000
What's happening?

591
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000
We were talking earlier about this.

592
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000
The problem is, it's changing right now.

593
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000
Is it really?

594
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,000
Yeah.

595
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,000
Why?

596
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000
People around.

597
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,000
Could you do it?

598
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000
Yeah.

599
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000
I couldn't either.

600
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,000
Really?

601
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,000
Yeah.

602
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000
Everybody.

603
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,000
Are they JJ?

604
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,000
Let's go, JJ.

605
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,000
Come on, are we there guys?

606
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,000
We're doing an insertion.

607
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000
Ready?

608
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000
Sound speed please.

609
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Rolling up.

610
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Rolling up.

611
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000
Is that comfortable?

612
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000
Okay.

613
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,000
That's caught.

614
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000
Okay, it's great.

615
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000
She's working with him and I think we're going to get it going.

616
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000
Yes.

617
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000
We're going to get this.

618
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000
And that was a good one with JJ.

619
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000
He's a little slow, but I think it's because there's so many people around.

620
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000
And this is, I mean, I've worked with JJ before and he's done really well.

621
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,000
But I think it's just, he's getting nervous because I think he knows the pressure's on him now.

622
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,000
Really?

623
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,000
Yeah.

624
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000
Margaret.

625
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,000
Big insertion.

626
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,000
Hold on.

627
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,000
I'm learning to promise a borrow.

628
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,000
Cut.

629
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,000
How was it?

630
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000
Okay.

631
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000
About an hour and a half too long.

632
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000
Really?

633
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000
Was it slow?

634
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000
Withless wonders.

635
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000
Don't say that.

636
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000
Isn't that harsh?

637
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Life's harsh.

638
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:43,000
Whatever drives one to do this as a living, perhaps some people shouldn't.

639
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,000
Tell us how it went, Marlis.

640
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:53,000
Well, I didn't do as good as I like, but it's always a thing.

641
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000
You delivered in the end, right?

642
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,000
Oh, yeah.

643
00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:02,000
But what about, as far as the man goes, you know, is pretty solid?

644
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,000
The end?

645
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,000
Near the end?

646
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Yeah.

647
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000
Beginning now.

648
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Really?

649
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000
Yeah.

650
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,000
So many people, and there's a lot of people that are nervous, kind of, working for Shanahan

651
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000
because he's a big director.

652
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000
I mean, you get nervous, it's hard to work.

653
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000
But yeah, near the end, he went fine.

654
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000
There were so many people that were so choppy.

655
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,000
They didn't wait and say, are you ready?

656
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000
They go, okay, you must be ready.

657
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Come on.

658
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,000
And then once they do that, that makes, wow, you got, you know, 10 times more stress right

659
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,000
there.

660
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,000
I'm going to rip.

661
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,000
How did you feel at talking when you saw JJ?

662
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000
And you know, he was soft for a little while.

663
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:49,000
I felt that because I know what the director and the cameraman was feeling.

664
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:55,000
You know, they were getting impatient, but I felt for JJ more than anything because it

665
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000
was his first time working for this director.

666
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000
How long have you been in the business?

667
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Damn, they're four years.

668
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,000
You think how much longer do you think you'll be in?

669
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000
About a week.

670
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Why?

671
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,000
Well, just with those seven inconclusives.

672
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000
What is that?

673
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000
What are the seven inconclusives?

674
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000
Okay, there are seven people.

675
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,000
We've had two positives in less than a week.

676
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000
In what?

677
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000
In HIV.

678
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000
I mean, now it's like, forget this.

679
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,000
I'm not risking my life anymore, you know, to make this much money.

680
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,000
I can make this much more money, you know, doing other things.

681
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000
What do you reckon, JJ?

682
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,000
Are you worried about these tests?

683
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000
No.

684
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000
I have a death wish, so it doesn't really matter.

685
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,000
The world of porno performers was turning out to be kind of depressing.

686
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000
Where were the parties, the glitz and the glamour?

687
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:54,000
I was beginning to lose faith, but then a breakthrough.

688
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,000
Word came that I'd been cast in a movie called Snowbound.

689
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000
It was shooting on location in the mountains,

690
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,000
so I arranged to ride up with one of the other actors, Troy Halston.

691
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,000
How you doing?

692
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,000
All right.

693
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,000
There's a master.

694
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000
There's a master.

695
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Hello puppy.

696
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Hello.

697
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,000
Hello.

698
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Hello.

699
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,000
Hello.

700
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000
Nice to meet you.

701
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,000
Okay, let's head...

702
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:23,000
Snowbound was a gay film, so I was surprised to learn that Troy considers himself to be straight.

703
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,000
In the words of the business, Troy was gay for pay.

704
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,000
See, that seems interesting to me that you'd be straight and working gay films.

705
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:39,000
It took a while to get used to the idea of being with a man.

706
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000
You go through a period of time where you think,

707
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:47,000
I need the money, so I'll do the work.

708
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,000
And then you do it a few times, and then you're like,

709
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000
if I'm doing the work, what's wrong with me?

710
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,000
You have a great back and forth in your head.

711
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Do you have any rules that you've set yourself in terms of what you want to do?

712
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:09,000
I have things that I do that I don't like to do more than other things.

713
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000
I would rather be the driver than anything else.

714
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000
I don't like to kiss.

715
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000
I don't like to...

716
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,000
I don't like getting fucked in the ass.

717
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,000
But presumably, being in gay porn,

718
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000
those things crop up from time to time, I imagine.

719
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000
You imagine it, don't you?

720
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:36,000
Before we head down there, can we run a few lines?

721
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,000
Sure, I can.

722
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:43,000
So I walk in, and I say, I love you.

723
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,000
Come on, put some feeling into it.

724
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,000
I'm not being paid for this.

725
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,000
I'm helping you, I'm not being paid.

726
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Right, I love you.

727
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000
Come on!

728
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000
Stay with some feeling.

729
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000
I don't even know you.

730
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000
That's acting.

731
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,000
I love you.

732
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,000
You're giving the same read every time.

733
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000
I love you.

734
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000
I love you.

735
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000
No, you're better.

736
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,000
So try it again.

737
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000
I love you.

738
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,000
Are you the director of Snowbound?

739
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000
Produce.

740
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000
What's your name?

741
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Dan.

742
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Dan, nice to meet you.

743
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000
I'm Louis Theroux.

744
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Hi, Louis.

745
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Hi, Bill, you're the director.

746
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,000
I'm the director.

747
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000
I'm Louis from the BBC.

748
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,000
I'm Louis.

749
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Louis, nice to meet you.

750
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,000
How's the shoot going?

751
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Well, it's going okay.

752
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,000
With any shoot, you can come up with a few problems,

753
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000
especially getting it started.

754
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,000
You're talking about wood problems?

755
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
Wood problems, yes.

756
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000
Especially when you have three guys in a scene,

757
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,000
whereas versus either a straight scene or a bisexual scene,

758
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
you have three guys in a guy scene,

759
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000
you have a lot more wood to be concerned with.

760
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,000
That's interesting.

761
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
That makes sense.

762
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000
You're waiting for three people.

763
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000
About my character.

764
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000
What can you tell me about the Ranger?

765
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,000
The Ranger basically is the authority figure.

766
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
Is the Ranger gay?

767
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
I think a Ranger is necessarily gay.

768
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000
I think a Ranger is asexual.

769
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000
Right, he would be asexual.

770
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,000
We think of them being sexy and like police officers,

771
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000
but most of the time they're not, are they?

772
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,000
No.

773
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000
Good evening, fellas.

774
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,000
I'm just out warning everybody.

775
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Good evening, fellas.

776
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,000
I'm just warning.

777
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000
Good evening, fellas.

778
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000
I am.

779
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Good evening, fellas.

780
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000
I'm just warning everybody.

781
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000
Yeah, do you think you'd go a bit slower?

782
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Good evening, fellas.

783
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000
I'm just warning everybody.

784
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Has he met them before?

785
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Everybody knows they're everybody.

786
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000
Good evening, Ranger.

787
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000
Good evening.

788
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,000
Come on in.

789
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Good evening, gentlemen.

790
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,000
I'm just out telling everyone to be on the lookout

791
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000
for an escapee from Jordan Valley Prison.

792
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000
Is he as cute as this picture?

793
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000
Officer, we'll keep our eyes open

794
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
for anybody that looks suspicious.

795
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000
You can keep that composite,

796
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
and if you need to, call me.

797
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000
Yeah, officer.

798
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Anytime we need you, we'll call you.

799
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000
Good night, gentlemen.

800
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Good night, officer.

801
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Good night.

802
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Good night.

803
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,000
Yeah, we'll call them.

804
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000
You were fine.

805
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000
You sure?

806
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
You were great.

807
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000
I didn't screw it up.

808
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
You were fine.

809
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000
You sure, Mel?

810
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,000
Hey, Troy.

811
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000
How you doing this morning?

812
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000
Good.

813
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000
What's on the cards for you today?

814
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,000
Do my sex scene, learn more dialogue,

815
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
and then I'll be done.

816
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,000
Then you guys ski?

817
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Then we can go ski.

818
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,000
TJ.

819
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Just come in here for a second.

820
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Huh?

821
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Oh, finished eating.

822
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000
Or finished what's in your mouth.

823
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000
You still seeing Troy?

824
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,000
Yes, I did.

825
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
What are you going to be doing?

826
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Showering, right?

827
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000
Yes.

828
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000
I'm going to be doing my sex scene.

829
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,000
I'm going to be doing my sex scene.

830
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000
Showering, right?

831
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000
Yes.

832
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Is this the one we rehearsed yesterday?

833
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,000
No.

834
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Come on, the one we did in the outside.

835
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,000
I love you.

836
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000
Yes, it is.

837
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,000
I love you.

838
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,000
Yes, it is.

839
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Yes, or something?

840
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Yeah, that's good.

841
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Yeah, he can do like that.

842
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,000
That'd be good.

843
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,000
How you feeling, Troy?

844
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
All right.

845
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,000
You're going to cross in.

846
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,000
You're going to sit down on the toilet.

847
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,000
And then that's basically the aura will be here.

848
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000
And then we'll move the fucking out to the living room.

849
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,000
So you don't have to be wet and try to keep heart on.

850
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Okay, I'm rolling.

851
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,000
And action.

852
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,000
It's like a, who cares?

853
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,000
I mean, we all know what we have to do when we come here and do it.

854
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000
If you don't do it, then you're not supposed to be here.

855
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000
So basically in the scene we just saw, it's off.

856
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000
We had two guys, Brent and Troy, who both basically straight,

857
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
or have been straight, or doing a gay scene.

858
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Is that unusual?

859
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Yeah.

860
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,000
I mean, I'm not sure.

861
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,000
I mean, I'm not sure.

862
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,000
I mean, I'm not sure.

863
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000
I mean, I'm not sure.

864
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000
I mean, I'm not sure.

865
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000
I mean, I'm not sure.

866
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,000
So you're doing a gay scene.

867
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Is that unusual?

868
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000
It is.

869
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,000
Usually it's a cardinal sin to put two straight guys together.

870
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,000
But I felt that they were strong enough performers that I didn't need to worry about it.

871
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,000
Yeah.

872
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000
So, and, you know, they proved me right.

873
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
What do you think it does to a guy's head?

874
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000
You know, someone like Troy who says he's straight,

875
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000
and he's acting in a gay corner.

876
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,000
Well, you need to be whoever it is, needs to be really secure in their sexuality.

877
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:07,000
You can see people who explode, you know, commit suicide,

878
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000
or, you know, go off and live in Idaho,

879
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,000
or kill their sugar daddies, or whatever.

880
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000
You know, the straight boys who can't handle it,

881
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000
the psycho straight boys, as I call them.

882
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000
It's terrible.

883
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000
It is.

884
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,000
It is.

885
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,000
But it's a fact of the business.

886
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:30,000
And it's because the models are conflicted in what their sexuality is,

887
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000
and what they're doing.

888
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000
We're going to take a smoke break.

889
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,000
What's happening, Derek?

890
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,000
We're waiting for the classic money shot, and we're not getting it.

891
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,000
From Troy?

892
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Yeah, from Troy.

893
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000
Is he using magazines?

894
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Yeah, they always use magazines at this point.

895
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,000
You don't want to sit there and, you know, be, I mean, it's a waste of time.

896
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,000
I mean, any stimulus that can help the model achieve their money shot.

897
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,000
They may all go early mags.

898
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,000
They're, you know, two girly magazines, I think one's by.

899
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
What do you call this part of the job?

900
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,000
Give me the money.

901
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Hey, it's the new gentleman.

902
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000
It's the man.

903
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000
How you doing?

904
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000
How's the scene?

905
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000
It took me a while to finish it, but I got it done.

906
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,000
Yeah.

907
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000
So what are you up to now?

908
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Corn skin.

909
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,000
Yeah.

910
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Box cover.

911
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:32,000
So, Troy, it's been nice hanging with you, man.

912
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Yes, it's been nice having you with me.

913
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Yeah, it's been interesting to see what worked.

914
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Plus, I was like, can you really be straight in 18-game movies, but it took you so long

915
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,000
to do that scene.

916
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Now I'm starting to think you probably are straight.

917
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Starting to think?

918
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,000
They just spent three hours making $1,500.

919
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,000
Yeah.

920
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000
They're just here.

921
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000
It takes you at least a week, right?

922
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,000
They just did it in four hours.

923
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Wacking off to a bunch of girly mags.

924
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Right.

925
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,000
You've seen magazines off, sitting out there, didn't you?

926
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000
I had no idea.

927
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,000
The production director said you were using girly mags.

928
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
It's not easy, but it's doable.

929
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Yeah, you weren't going down on a guy though, right?

930
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000
I guess I didn't.

931
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Unfortunately, yeah.

932
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
You enjoyed it in the lake?

933
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Oh, come on now.

934
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,000
08, I don't practice it out in normal life.

935
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Oh, my God.

936
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
It was time to head back to the valley.

937
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:46,000
I'd heard that JJ had been cast in a new film to be directed by a 23-year-old called Rob Black.

938
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Black had a reputation for being a little more provocative than the likes of Susan and her friends at Vivid Video.

939
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
I decided to pay him a visit.

940
00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:01,000
What we do, what I do, what we all do here at Elegant Angel is we bring something where you watch it and you go,

941
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
I can't believe what I just watched.

942
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Here, here's a box cover.

943
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,000
You see this.

944
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000
Wow, right?

945
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000
That's cute girl.

946
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,000
You see that, Rod?

947
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:15,000
But, you know, you hold up this and which one stands out, you know, which one do you go,

948
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000
what am I looking at?

949
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000
You know, what is that?

950
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,000
This one.

951
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,000
This, this.

952
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,000
This one does this.

953
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,000
Any, any jammoke with an 8-millimeter camera could go to Jim Salis's office, get a couple girls,

954
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
get a couple guys, and they'll say, okay, we're gonna have some sex in the bed.

955
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Wow, here's a porno movie.

956
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Sadamania 7, I love that freaking thing.

957
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,000
I love that.

958
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,000
Why, why is Sadamania 7?

959
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,000
It's a good movie.

960
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,000
Yeah, part 6 and part 8 just, I don't quite as good as part 7.

961
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,000
Not as good as 7.

962
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Really?

963
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
Yeah, 7 is, uh, it is...

964
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,000
It's like Rocky IV.

965
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Well, this is, this is like the first Rocky.

966
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Yeah, really?

967
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000
You know, it's, yeah, it's the best one.

968
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,000
This movie we're working on now is called Forced Entry.

969
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,000
It sounds a little bit, you know, it sounds a little bit naughty.

970
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000
Yeah, it is.

971
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000
It's pretty, it's pretty bad.

972
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Basically, the theme of the movie is, uh, is about, uh, is like about rape.

973
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000
So, yeah.

974
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000
Is that legal?

975
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000
Yeah, no, it's illegal.

976
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000
That's our legal advisor right there.

977
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000
You know, no one's actually getting raped.

978
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Being hurt in it, but that's the basic premises.

979
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Tell me where you are.

980
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,000
JJ.

981
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Yeah.

982
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Hey, this is Israel over at Elligan Angel.

983
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Hey.

984
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,000
What's the word on JJ?

985
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,000
He's worked here in the company and he did good.

986
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000
I don't know how long he's been in there for a month or two.

987
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Yeah.

988
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000
So, I mean, a couple months, I don't know how long.

989
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000
So, I'm gonna give him a shot.

990
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000
I've never used him, so I'll give him a shot.

991
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Yeah, is it the gang bang thing or?

992
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Or who's the grower?

993
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000
I don't tell you what, I'll let, uh, put you on the line with Rob.

994
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,000
He'll tell you the details.

995
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Okay.

996
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Ask him if he's all set with all of his tests and all of that.

997
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,000
All right.

998
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000
Yes, and I'm picking up the last of my tests.

999
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,000
They should be all cleared.

1000
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,000
You'll be ready by one o'clock tomorrow.

1001
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Yeah.

1002
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,000
All right then.

1003
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,000
All right, I'll call you back later.

1004
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,000
Oh, okay.

1005
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,000
Bye.

1006
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,000
What are the tests?

1007
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Uh, there's a certain test that every performer is required to take, and that's the AIDS,

1008
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,000
HIV, DNA, ELISA, Western Blotch test.

1009
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Exactly like that.

1010
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Let me see that.

1011
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Um, so I think you know about these.

1012
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000
Yeah.

1013
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,000
What's my stage name?

1014
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,000
Your stage name is Sir Lenthe Allot.

1015
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
What do you think?

1016
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,000
You ready?

1017
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Let's toss them in the scene.

1018
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,000
You guys ready to work?

1019
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,000
He's proud.

1020
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Let's do it tomorrow.

1021
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Do you really want me to do it?

1022
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000
Damn.

1023
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Why?

1024
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000
This will put, this will fucking put you over the top.

1025
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,000
That everyone, they put, papers will be printin' about you.

1026
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,000
They'd be like, you never guess what this BBC journalist did.

1027
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
He went to America and was in a porno.

1028
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
That'd be big time, man.

1029
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000
That'd be big time.

1030
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000
All right, I just wouldn't fly.

1031
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Not on BBC too.

1032
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:55,000
If our people here in America, if Mike Wallace are morally safer in them, if they go in the

1033
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,000
investigative report, they go in, they pretend they're like a construction worker and shit,

1034
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,000
they would do it.

1035
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Harolda Rivera.

1036
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000
I'm more fuckers than everything.

1037
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000
You see him gambling.

1038
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,000
He, show the camera that.

1039
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000
Wait, let me see that.

1040
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Let me see it.

1041
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,000
Where's your penis?

1042
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,000
Let me see that.

1043
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Look at your penis.

1044
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Look at that shit.

1045
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Look at that shit.

1046
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,000
You know, I'll give you a rate, 250 bucks.

1047
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,000
There's no way I can do it.

1048
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000
Why not?

1049
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Because, um, it's just not, it's just not something people in Britain wanna see, really.

1050
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
You ever commit you a star?

1051
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Can I just say I really do appreciate the offer.

1052
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,000
I seriously do.

1053
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000
And I regard, I'm very flattered and honoured.

1054
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,000
Well, if you ever, you know, get fired from BBC or ever come over here, you got a job right here.

1055
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Yeah.

1056
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,000
An elegant angel.

1057
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,000
I appreciate that.

1058
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000
You'll be one of my guys, man.

1059
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,000
Yeah.

1060
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,000
You'll be in all my movies.

1061
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000
Yeah.

1062
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,000
Boom.

1063
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
That's very, very kind.

1064
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Okey-doke.

1065
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,000
So where do we, where do we meet you tomorrow?

1066
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Probably here.

1067
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Here, and then we'll make our way.

1068
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
Where is the shoot happening?

1069
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,000
Um...

1070
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000
On a soundstage?

1071
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,000
No.

1072
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,000
In, in a, in a special place called Yarnyville.

1073
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Rob?

1074
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Rob?

1075
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Rob?

1076
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Rob?

1077
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,000
Rob?

1078
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Rob?

1079
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Rob?

1080
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Rob?

1081
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Rob?

1082
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,000
Rob?

1083
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Rob?

1084
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000
Rob?

1085
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Rob?

1086
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000
Rob?

1087
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000
Rob?

1088
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000
Rob?

1089
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Rob?

1090
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,000
Rob?

1091
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000
Rob?

1092
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Rob?

1093
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Rob?

1094
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Rob?

1095
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Rob?

1096
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Can we come in?

1097
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Rob, can we come in?

1098
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Rob, can we come in?

1099
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,000
Rob, can you come in?

1100
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000
This is a new movie, so...

1101
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,000
Where is my man, JJ?

1102
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Why is he so old?

1103
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Why are you so old?

1104
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Why is he so old?

1105
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Why are you so young?

1106
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,000
He couldn't, uh, he had a couple people with JJ today.

1107
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,000
He couldn't, uh, he had a couple people with JJ today.

1108
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,000
They drew blood five days ago, and they lost the results...

1109
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,000
He couldn't work today.

1110
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:08,000
We had a couple people test...to people test positive for the HIV.

1111
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,000
So in turn, now with the Stingian tight.

1112
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,000
And everyone, so everyone has to have three tests.

1113
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000
They don't have three tests. They can't work.

1114
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,000
So we got somebody else and we made it a bigger scene and that's where we're at.

1115
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,000
Who'd you get instead?

1116
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,000
We got Polkak and we got Dick Nasty.

1117
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,000
That's my right there, Dick Nasty.

1118
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
How you doing? Is your all okay?

1119
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,000
Oh this is just for the short say. It's supposed to be fight.

1120
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
It comes off before the thing starts.

1121
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Oh really?

1122
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Yeah.

1123
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Ready? Action.

1124
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Do you have a get his box in here? I can't lift him my arm.

1125
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000
I just need some help.

1126
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000
Oh thanks.

1127
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Oh, do you think we're on top of that stuff there for me?

1128
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Let's fight.

1129
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:07,000
I love this stuff.

1130
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Look at long fingers.

1131
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,000
I have long fingers.

1132
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000
Is this what you want to hurt her?

1133
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Oh wow, a little tighter than this.

1134
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Look at this.

1135
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,000
See now, if we fucked her like this, that would be illegal.

1136
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Couldn't do that. Couldn't sell it.

1137
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Why?

1138
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Because she had to consider bondage.

1139
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000
How you feeling like, Steve?

1140
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000
I'm kind of weird.

1141
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000
What do you want?

1142
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000
We're going to bring out the fuck off her.

1143
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000
As Rob Black's vision came to life, I felt I'd seen enough.

1144
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Maybe more than I wanted to see.

1145
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000
I don't want to get in your way, so you just do your thing.

1146
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,000
I got it buddy.

1147
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,000
You want to make a cameo?

1148
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000
They're brother at the end.

1149
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000
What are you guys doing?

1150
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000
We're going to go to the stout.

1151
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Are you ready?

1152
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Yeah, we're ready.

1153
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000
You're going to walk and you're going to be like, Phil, I've got a real one.

1154
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,000
I've got a real one.

1155
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000
Stop playing with those fucking donkeys.

1156
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Alex, you're going to be like, and then Richard's going to say,

1157
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000
now I'm going to take this cape off you.

1158
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,000
But if you make the sound, I'm going to let Phil here go.

1159
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,000
More than ever, I was wondering what kept a nice kid like JJ in this business.

1160
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000
Could we get two lemonade, please?

1161
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,000
So I arranged to meet up with JJ at one of his favorite hangouts.

1162
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,000
The local mall.

1163
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000
One large and one regular, please.

1164
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000
Hey, we were just over at the Rob Black shoot.

1165
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,000
Don't you think like with two people who are HIV positive,

1166
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,000
it's just a matter of time before there's more?

1167
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000
I mean, you must be worried.

1168
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
I mean, basically you have unprotected sex.

1169
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Yeah, but I don't think about it, so I assume I'm safe, you know?

1170
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,000
And that way I don't go home and worry every night.

1171
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
If you did that, you'd just quit.

1172
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Well, maybe quitting wouldn't be a bad option in that case.

1173
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Well, bad.

1174
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000
Well, I guess if you're worried about it, yeah.

1175
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Or as I don't, so, you know.

1176
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,000
See, this would be stuck in the military again, and I'd rather do this.

1177
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,000
So if the benefits had been better, would you have stayed in the military?

1178
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Over this? No.

1179
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Right now, there's nothing you can give me how to do over this.

1180
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,000
Why?

1181
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,000
Because I like this.

1182
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000
Yeah, why do you love about it?

1183
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
The way I'm treated.

1184
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
You actually feel like the...

1185
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Whether it's an act or not, you feel like they give a damn about you.

1186
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Whereas in the military, I know they don't give a damn about me.

1187
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,000
You know, though, there's more to the outside world than just the military.

1188
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Just because you had a hard time in the military, that doesn't mean you should just say,

1189
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000
well, porno's the only thing for me.

1190
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,000
Yeah, but I had a hard time otherwise, too.

1191
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Really?

1192
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Yeah.

1193
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,000
Yeah, I just don't...

1194
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
No, I mean, I like this.

1195
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,000
This is treating me nice.

1196
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,000
Treat me the way I want to be treated.

1197
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000
What do you mean, you had a hard time otherwise?

1198
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:45,000
I finally found somewhere where I like being, where the people like me being there,

1199
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,000
and where I'm appreciated.

1200
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:55,000
And, you know, I'm happy with it, and it makes me happy, so why would I want to leave this, you know?

1201
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000
What if this work doesn't work out?

1202
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,000
What do you do then?

1203
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Nothing.

1204
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,000
So what does nothing mean?

1205
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,000
It means I have no contingent.

1206
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,000
What?

1207
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,000
Nothing?

1208
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
So what does nothing mean?

1209
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,000
It means I have no contingency for that situation.

1210
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:14,000
I don't know.

1211
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Well...

1212
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,000
No contingency plan.

1213
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,000
JJ's rejection of the outside world was absolute.

1214
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,000
I wondered if this was the trait that unified all the male performers,

1215
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000
that each had been wounded by mainstream society,

1216
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,000
and taken refuge in the porno subculture.

1217
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,000
As for me, I was due back in the world of the fully clothed.

1218
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,000
I had just one last piece of business to take care of.

1219
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Hey, Jim, thanks very much.

1220
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,000
My pleasure.

1221
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,000
So I'm taking off, so I thought I'd take my photo with me,

1222
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,000
so that when I become a star, you don't sell it or put it on the internet.

1223
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:03,000
I'm not going to say what I was going to say, but I'll be nice.

1224
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Okay, so you're going back to...

1225
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Did you get any interest, by the way?

1226
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,000
Was there any leads?

1227
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Did you show it to anyone?

1228
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,000
A couple of people were interested.

1229
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,000
No, be serious.

1230
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,000
But I told them you were probably a little too expensive.

1231
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,000
You understand.

1232
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000
I was never really going to become a porno performer,

1233
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,000
but it's a gimmick that I used to understand when I reposted the story.

1234
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Did we pass?

1235
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,000
It wasn't a test.

1236
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,000
It wasn't a test.

1237
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Okay, is this the right picture?

1238
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,000
Yes.

1239
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,000
Okay.

1240
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,000
Thanks for hooking up with JJ, by the way.

1241
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,000
Yeah, no problem.

1242
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,000
He's a real nice kid.

1243
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,000
Nice kid, right.

1244
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
He's too nice for this business.

1245
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,000
Well, there's a lot of nice people in this business,

1246
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000
but I think the better word is,

1247
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:50,000
an easygoing, clean-cut, all-American porno expression type person.

1248
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,000
But the book is not always what it seems to be.

1249
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000
He is a nice person, but we have a lot of nice people.

1250
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Yeah.

1251
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000
We had you for a week.

1252
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,000
I mean, how can you do better than that?

1253
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,000
Okay?

1254
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,000
Do you know that I actually did get an offer of work in all seriousness?

1255
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,000
Did you?

1256
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Yes, I did.

1257
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,000
That's great.

1258
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,000
Do you know who it's from?

1259
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,000
Yeah.

1260
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,000
Rob Black.

1261
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,000
That's okay.

1262
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,000
He's a good shooter.

1263
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,000
That's elegant angel, I believe.

1264
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,000
Yes.

1265
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Very good company.

1266
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,000
And I chickened out.

1267
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000
That's not unusual.

1268
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,000
You know what, though?

1269
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,000
But I didn't chicken out because I was afraid I wouldn't get wood.

1270
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,000
I didn't chicken out because it just made me feel kind of funny.

1271
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,000
It can.

1272
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,000
It can.

1273
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,000
We understand.

1274
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,000
Some can do it.

1275
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Some can't do it.

1276
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,000
Some people, it's their forte.

1277
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Some it's not.

1278
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000
It's a business that messes with your head, doesn't it?

1279
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000
Well, it depends on how strong mentally you are.

1280
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000
We look at it differently.

1281
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,000
I look at it like this is a great way to work two, three days a week,

1282
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,000
make a lot of money if you can handle it minimally.

1283
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,000
Okay?

1284
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,000
Thanks very much, Jim.

1285
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Thank you very much.

1286
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,000
My pleasure.

1287
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,000
See you next time.

1288
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,000
Okay.

1289
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Bye-bye now.

1290
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,000
Bye.

1291
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,000
Bye, Jim Jr. Goodbye.

1292
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,000
Nice candy.

1293
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,000
Modeling.

1294
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000
Okay, what is your name?

1295
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Right.

1296
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,000
Which of that is making an appointment?

1297
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Okay.

1298
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,000
And again, you understand it is nude modeling.

1299
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,000
Okay.

1300
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,000
What about tomorrow morning?

1301
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:21,000
What do you think?

1302
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:26,000
You really did, huh?

1303
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Yeah.

1304
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
What about that one?

1305
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Just off to see it.

1306
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,000
Seriously, you don't need me.

1307
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,000
I do love this picture.

1308
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,000
You don't need a reason.

1309
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,000
I do love this picture.

1310
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Was this for Jim's self?

1311
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,000
Yeah.

1312
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,000
How did I know that?

1313
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,000
Great.

1314
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,000
That's great.

1315
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,000
That's great.

1316
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,000
Look at that.

1317
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,000
That's great.

1318
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Three, that's great.

1319
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,000
Why are you laughing?

1320
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,000
This is funny.

1321
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,000
Yeah.

1322
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Can I keep this?

1323
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,000
No, we need it for the show.

1324
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,000
As a one to ten, how would you rate the talent you see in that polaroid?

1325
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,000
I would say you have a great body.

1326
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,000
I mean, you're not fat.

1327
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,000
You don't have any big tattoos.

1328
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Now you're in, man.

1329
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,000
I'm in the club.

1330
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,000
You're in, baby.

1331
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Would I work in that?

1332
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,000
No, I can't take it.

1333
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,000
We can't take the rejection.

1334
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I wouldn't work like me either.